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For Dane - MGs Are good

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by CieZ 7th November 2014, 05:16 AM
  • U.S. Forces flag Alleyviper
  • U.S. Forces flag Congie
Crossing in the Woods (4)
Crossing in the Woods
  • Ostheer flag RtN.Alexander
  • Ostheer flag RtN.CieZ
  • [00:07:41] Alleyviper: they really ened to fix the armeicans
  • [00:07:47] Alleyviper: there so easy to counter its stupid
  • [00:07:56] Alleyviper: i have no choice but to build rifles
  • [00:08:02] Alleyviper: and you can set up mgs with arcs half the screen wide
  • [00:32:21] Alleyviper: this game is so easy mode for axis
  • [00:32:25] Alleyviper: so sick of this
  • [00:32:45] RtN.CieZ: why not try playing some axis? should play both factions anyways
  • [00:32:45] Alleyviper: you cant tell me its not 10 times easier to manage your armor than allies
  • [00:32:49] Alleyviper: i do
  • [00:32:54] Alleyviper: i've played all quite a lto actually
  • [00:33:00] Alleyviper: its a lot easier as axis
  • [00:33:05] Alleyviper: your armor makes an anchor
  • [00:33:11] Alleyviper: for your entire battle line
  • [00:33:16] Alleyviper: and bleeds the allies to death
  • [00:33:28] Alleyviper: because you can jsut back out of confrontations
  • [00:33:35] Alleyviper: and often even rush in unsupported and come out a live
  • [00:33:42] Alleyviper: i make one wrong move witha jakson
  • [00:33:44] Alleyviper: and its dead
  • [00:33:55] Alleyviper: and even panthers can whittle away at rifleman
  • [00:34:14] Alleyviper: the ruskies are fine
  • [00:34:17] Alleyviper: but the americans are hosed
  • [00:34:20] Alleyviper: thye have no heavy armor
  • [00:34:23] Alleyviper: no non doctrine arty
  • [00:34:24] RtN.CieZ: USF has the strongest late game =/
  • [00:34:28] Alleyviper: LOL
  • [00:34:31] Alleyviper: are you joking
  • [00:34:35] RtN.CieZ: not at all
  • [00:34:37] Congie: wat
  • [00:34:41] Alleyviper: no heavy armor late game
  • [00:34:53] Alleyviper: a single shreck squad can deal with our one answer to your armor
  • [00:35:07] Alleyviper: what on earth late game do i have that is better than yours
  • [00:35:08] RtN.CieZ: nothing can deal with late game USF infantry
  • [00:35:14] Alleyviper: ummm
  • [00:35:15] Alleyviper: obs
  • [00:35:17] RtN.CieZ: more pop cap, jacksons, scotts, BARS
  • [00:35:19] Alleyviper: falls
  • [00:35:28] RtN.CieZ: yes Ost has obs and falls, falls suck anyways
  • [00:35:33] Alleyviper: falls are fine
  • [00:35:39] Alleyviper: you also have the one from breakthrough doc
  • [00:35:43] RtN.Alexander: we aren't okw
  • [00:35:43] Alleyviper: with the g43
  • [00:35:45] RtN.CieZ: fusilier suck too
  • [00:35:53] Alleyviper: they are plenty good for ther ecost
  • [00:35:56] Alleyviper: and grens are fine
  • [00:35:59] Alleyviper: against us
  • [00:36:00] Alleyviper: with lmgs
  • [00:36:06] Alleyviper: plus you ahve easy acess to mgs
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CieZ
7 Nov 2014, 05:16 AM
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Uploading so that I can send this to Dane/Relic.

Just some evidence that HMG42s don't need to be buffed.

Cheers.

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Bryan
7 Nov 2014, 15:24 PM
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Take this with a large pinch of salt as I have not watched the replay or am familiar with Dane's thoughts on the MG42, I assume he has made them clear in the closed alpha. But Crossing on the woods is up there with Langre as an Axis favoured map, they suit Ostheer ideal ranges.

Personally i'm fine with the MG42, its pretty lackluster until it hits vet2, and then it gets a big jump in performance and becomes imo the best HMG. Due to a variety of factors, such as the traverse speed and the general size of coh2 maps, an out of the box MG42 at vet0 in the early game can be pretty tricky to use in an already fragile early game for Ostheer on some maps.

But sure, that's what makes Ostheer interesting and fun, probably the most rounded faction which can use combined arms, which is pretty powerful, albeit if you feck up your positioning it can all come apart very quickly in the early-mid game.
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Sarantini
7 Nov 2014, 15:35 PM
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Yeah vet0 mg42s have terrible traverse speed, I guess the gunner takes some steroids when he hits vet 2 :D
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7 Nov 2014, 15:53 PM
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saying machine guns are good on crossing in the woods is like saying shock troops are good on stalingrad or jagdtiger is good on minsk pocket. Nobody is arguing this point :P
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CieZ
7 Nov 2014, 17:27 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Nov 2014, 15:53 PMRomeo
saying machine guns are good on crossing in the woods is like saying shock troops are good on stalingrad or jagdtiger is good on minsk pocket. Nobody is arguing this point :P


Dane is just crazy enough to try and argue this exact point, it is the only reason I uploaded the replay ;)

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Imperial Dane
7 Nov 2014, 21:06 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Nov 2014, 17:27 PMCieZ


Dane is just crazy enough to try and argue this exact point, it is the only reason I uploaded the replay ;)


Except you're brilliantly missing the point. Splendid work Ciez.
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CieZ
7 Nov 2014, 23:49 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post7 Nov 2014, 21:06 PMImperial Dane


Except you're brilliantly missing the point. Splendid work Ciez.


Cool story Dane. I appreciate and fully accept your gracious complements. I'm glad you think that I'm brilliant and splendid :D

You made my day good sir!

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