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30 Aug 2014, 11:37 AM
#21
avatar of The Shape

Posts: 475

B4 is so easy to take out. Recon, Bomb...stukah anything.

I've used to B4 at times because I got stomped by the Jag and KT and it still didn't matter. One game I played had some top 50 players in our base before the B4 even shot twice.
30 Aug 2014, 11:42 AM
#22
avatar of xeno

Posts: 82

Cruzz come on "that somewhat work against OKW"

It's very powerful, not that diffficult to pull off and has no real hardcounter.

Tbh I started playing soviets 1 month ago with Qmotion. Never played em before except 3 customs in the beta and 2 laddergames ½ year ago. Now we are top 10. I only a-move maxims and save up for ISU with my 600 fuel at 12 CP. That's just lol.

Relic needs to rework soviets and fix all the soviet performance-boosting bugs.
30 Aug 2014, 11:55 AM
#23
avatar of Cruzz

Posts: 1221 | Subs: 41

jump backJump back to quoted post30 Aug 2014, 11:42 AMxeno

Tbh I started playing soviets 1 month ago with Qmotion. Never played em before except 3 customs in the beta and 2 laddergames ½ year ago. Now we are top 10. I only a-move maxims and save up for ISU with my 600 fuel at 12 CP. That's just lol.


Tbh I started playing OKW 1 month ago. Never played em before. Now I am top 5. I only a-move volks and save up for heavy vehicles. That's just lol.
30 Aug 2014, 12:09 PM
#24
avatar of xeno

Posts: 82

Yes Cruzz OKW easiest faction to play for sure. You are neither stupid or a noob. Don't say nonsense like that.

If you can a-move volks into a-moving maxims and still win the RNG God must love you real good !

Just saying :
I'm a steam summersale noob at soviet and been a-moving my way to top 10 with maxims. gg Relic.

I'm very good at playing OKW and been struggling just to stay in top 10.
30 Aug 2014, 12:10 PM
#25
avatar of Qmotion

Posts: 71

jump backJump back to quoted post30 Aug 2014, 11:55 AMCruzz


Tbh I started playing OKW 1 month ago. Never played em before. Now I am top 5. I only a-move volks and save up for heavy vehicles. That's just lol.


You cant spam volks and A-Move them in 2v2, thats a deathwish. i dont know about 1v1, but we are talking about 2v2 here. go play some OKW 2v2, the game is full of Soviet abusers anyway. you will hardly get any American opponents. It's always the same crap with Maxim spam or snipers with m3, and shocks into ISU. People use that style cuz they know its ridicilous OP. OKW has no counter to many of these things, for example Snipers, maxim spam and even shocks. Without MG you cant even stop shocks, they just rush all the way in your HQ,you need your whole army to stop 2 units of shocks. Im not even gonna start about the ISU cuz that shit is realy shit.
30 Aug 2014, 12:27 PM
#26
avatar of mariens

Posts: 90

i think its fine, to make b4 fire few shots without cooldown you need quite a big micro, thats also skill,vs snipers in m3 u can get really cheap rakentenwerfer and kubels wich is quit op early game vs this strat, vs maxims u get infantry suport gun wich is so much better then mortars or any maxim, i think u just need l2p, game is balanced stop whining.

P.S. my judgement on game balance has nothing to do with me smoking crack and STOP JUDGING ME!
30 Aug 2014, 12:34 PM
#27
avatar of Kronosaur0s

Posts: 1701

All these soviet early cheese could be solved with an early German fighting vehicle (like 221) but hell no, only allied factions can access to this type of awesome technology..
30 Aug 2014, 12:52 PM
#28
avatar of The Shape

Posts: 475

I saw B4 bug used right at the beginning but never again. That's not why they lost. 1 B4 doesn't win games. I think OKW guy making Panthers should have went KT instead.

In my experience KT AND Jag...pretty much unstoppable. ISU...won't even touch the Jag and KT kills everything. You'd need a lot...ALOT to deal with that. I lost like 4 shermans in 30 seconds to that combo. I thought I was just fighting the Jag....trying to bomb it....then the KT arrived right behind it. Deadly.

US still needs a super tank. Why does Germans get all the Heavy Tanks?
30 Aug 2014, 12:54 PM
#29
avatar of Qmotion

Posts: 71

jump backJump back to quoted post30 Aug 2014, 12:27 PMmariens
i think its fine, to make b4 fire few shots without cooldown you need quite a big micro, thats also skill,vs snipers in m3 u can get really cheap rakentenwerfer and kubels wich is quit op early game vs this strat, vs maxims u get infantry suport gun wich is so much better then mortars or any maxim, i think u just need l2p, game is balanced stop whining.

P.S. my judgement on game balance has nothing to do with me smoking crack and STOP JUDGING ME!


man stop this ''you need to l2p'' nonesens, i've been playing this game for over a year now. i am in top 10 both axis and allies. SO pplease stop talking nonesens. Kubels dont do shit vs snipers and a raketenwerfer is an expensive and very risky decision for an early game, it is shit and very fragile, an m3 can easily dodge it. If you get a raketen early it means less other inf, which means you risk the chance of being overrun. Vs maxims an inf. support gun? man please stop talking trash dude you have no idea about OKW. even a stuka cant get rid of all the maxim spams, since the recharge time (120 sec) is horrible to counter the maxims. the maxims just can retreat and reinforce and come back. Or even worse if there is an ambulance from the American player nearby they can just reinforce on the spot. An Inf support gun is even worse. The AOE dmg is just horrible and it takes way too long to wipe a maxim squad. You cant sit there and wait 15 min to destroy 2 maxim squads.

30 Aug 2014, 13:20 PM
#30
avatar of wiatros

Posts: 31

oh nice, autofiring b4 exploit from one of top players. way to go luvnest. your teammate should start teleporting mayor to unlock douchebag team achievement
30 Aug 2014, 13:25 PM
#31
avatar of Aerohank

Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1

All these soviet early cheese could be solved with an early German fighting vehicle (like 221) but hell no, only allied factions can access to this type of awesome technology..


OKW starts with an early fighting vehicle.

Also if Ostheer starts with early 221, something else has got to go. It would mean Ostheers starting units are pios, grens with panzerfaust, mg42, sniper, mortar, scout car all for a lousy 80 manpower and 10 fuel, from a 20 fuel starting point.
30 Aug 2014, 15:20 PM
#32
avatar of Sully

Posts: 390 | Subs: 2

Shameful for a top player to use this bug, and shameful for the players here defending its use.
30 Aug 2014, 16:05 PM
#33
avatar of elchino7
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Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2

This bug is still in teh game?


It works with other artillery too, but they kinda suck :P
30 Aug 2014, 16:27 PM
#34
avatar of mariens

Posts: 90

jump backJump back to quoted post30 Aug 2014, 12:54 PMQmotion


man stop this ''you need to l2p'' nonesens, i've been playing this game for over a year now. i am in top 10 both axis and allies. SO pplease stop talking nonesens. Kubels dont do shit vs snipers and a raketenwerfer is an expensive and very risky decision for an early game, it is shit and very fragile, an m3 can easily dodge it. If you get a raketen early it means less other inf, which means you risk the chance of being overrun. Vs maxims an inf. support gun? man please stop talking trash dude you have no idea about OKW. even a stuka cant get rid of all the maxim spams, since the recharge time (120 sec) is horrible to counter the maxims. the maxims just can retreat and reinforce and come back. Or even worse if there is an ambulance from the American player nearby they can just reinforce on the spot. An Inf support gun is even worse. The AOE dmg is just horrible and it takes way too long to wipe a maxim squad. You cant sit there and wait 15 min to destroy 2 maxim squads.



cool story bro, im sorry but i think i know way more about balance then u, im in top500 in 4v4 random and my bros pros will agree that axis is EZ mode, i may be playing only soviets but i know what im talking, b4 is fine its part of soviet micro, now l2p :facepalm:
30 Aug 2014, 16:39 PM
#35
avatar of DavidKh

Posts: 110

Ok, we are noobs guys...
We must l2p.

mariens
How old are you? Where you from?
30 Aug 2014, 16:58 PM
#36
avatar of mariens

Posts: 90

im glad u agree that u need to l2p, lets not get into this how old are you and where you from thing, that is irrelevant, if ill answer next question will be what is your religion, though the only right religion is scientology, but anyway let me educate u why b4 is fine the way it is, to make b4 fire few extra times u really need to focus on it witch means u not microing your 7 maxims vs this op axis bs that these nubs can throw at u, all you need is to let your guard down for 15 seconds and your maxims can be flanked and anihilated, as soviets u cant afford getting more then 7 maxims, if u forced to build more maxims means there might be not enough mp for another b4 and that can loose you a game, and wining games is very importaint
30 Aug 2014, 17:03 PM
#37
avatar of DavidKh

Posts: 110

Hey dumb, we are talking about glitch and not B4, are you moron or wtf???
30 Aug 2014, 17:33 PM
#38
avatar of Qmotion

Posts: 71

mariens you can stop now, only trash comes out of your mouth. the fact that you only play 4v4 as soviet explains it all, we dont need to hear you
30 Aug 2014, 17:47 PM
#39
avatar of DanielD

Posts: 783 | Subs: 3

I can't decide whether to be disappointed in Luvnest or glad that David is going to quit playing CoH.

Ofc I know David is just another crybaby who says he's leaving and sticks around 'cause he's got nothing better to do so I guess I'm just disappointed in Luvnest.
30 Aug 2014, 17:52 PM
#40
avatar of vasa1719

Posts: 2635 | Subs: 4

Permanently Banned
LOL. The people who use maxim spam in 2v2 make claims for another player who use another side of coin in game. Or I somthing dont understand about respect ?
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