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SageOftheSix - Last day for Germans

by CaptainSPrice 23rd April 2014, 21:04 PM
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Patch: 3.0.0.13444
Duration: 00:24:36
23 Apr 2014, 21:04 PM
#1
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24 Apr 2014, 06:46 AM
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More like last day of OP KV-8
24 Apr 2014, 10:42 AM
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I must say I agree with Sage this time. The KV-8 is just so fucking hard to kill. I tried using panther to chase it down and most of the time rounds bounce off or do little damage.

Shoot that thing at front armor even with Elephant ? Good luck.
24 Apr 2014, 12:42 PM
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had so map control but u abuse 2 mht that last few minutes. dont blame kv8 for ur defeat
24 Apr 2014, 14:49 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Apr 2014, 10:42 AMKyle
I must say I agree with Sage this time. The KV-8 is just so fucking hard to kill. I tried using panther to chase it down and most of the time rounds bounce off or do little damage.

Shoot that thing at front armor even with Elephant ? Good luck.

It's not true.

I like when german want to counter HEAVY TANK ANTI INFANTRY (doctrine dependant btw...)with grenadiers or even 1 alone panzergrenadier which doesn't even cost 400. You have to mix, OMG yeah mixing or you will be hardcountered (very rare as german, isn't it ?)

I like too when german feel "ok" to get a tiger ace without a single amount of fuel...Since the big patch where tank building require a lot of fuel, all doctrines with "direct tank without T3/T4" are very powerful.


In this game the german wasn't prepared vs armor. 1 single PIV and it was gg for the kv8. Basically, it was grenadiers vs kv8 and what a great surprise : it doesn't work. Maybe grenadiers should have a kill button to eat all soviet tanks in 1 hit? Correct me if i'm wrong but grenadier have direct AT grenade for free...What ? AT mix and after that PIV ? OMG it's too hard ! Really ? Welcome to soviet world.
24 Apr 2014, 18:21 PM
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KV-8 IS OP AS MADE EXCEDINGLY OBVIOUS BY THE FACT PATCH FIXED IT. there really is no arguing the point, unless you disagree b/c you know more than most top players AND the entire relic balance team.
24 Apr 2014, 19:47 PM
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KV-8 IS OP AS MADE EXCEDINGLY OBVIOUS BY THE FACT PATCH FIXED IT


HOWITZER ARE OP AS MADE EXCEEDINGLY OBVIOUS BY THE FACT PATCH FIXED IT

STUG G ARE OP AS MADE EXCEEDINGLY OBVIOUS BY THE FACT PATCH FIXED IT

SU-76 ARE OP AS MADE EXCEEDINGLY OBVIOUS BY THE FACT PATCH FIXED IT

24 Apr 2014, 19:56 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Apr 2014, 19:47 PMCruzz


HOWITZER ARE OP AS MADE EXCEEDINGLY OBVIOUS BY THE FACT PATCH FIXED IT

STUG G ARE OP AS MADE EXCEEDINGLY OBVIOUS BY THE FACT PATCH FIXED IT

SU-76 ARE OP AS MADE EXCEEDINGLY OBVIOUS BY THE FACT PATCH FIXED IT



Cruzz if you think the KV-8 wasn't OP, you are in the very small minority of players who do.
24 Apr 2014, 20:06 PM
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24 Apr 2014, 20:08 PM
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Cruzz if you think the KV-8 wasn't OP, you are in the very small minority of players who do.

Are you serious ? KV8 is DOCTRINE BASED. The replay show a NOT prepared player vs armor. Even with the new patch it was gg for german.

The KV8 can be countered with 1 grenadier to AT grenade (free, isn't it ?) and a tank like the PIV. Where is the imba ? Because you need to use 2 units ? The KV8 have a lot of hp but what about tiger ? As soviet i need more than 1 unit to kill tiger but it's fine...

Btw, since when Relic has the truth coming from god himself ? The game is still in heavy patch mode so don't tell me that "everything in the patch is safe and good".

I'm sorry but i'm starting to think that you are a player who can't take a lose without "NO NO NO, if i lose its not my fault" and i'm not alone to think like that (as i can see on the site).
24 Apr 2014, 20:15 PM
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KV8 isn't OP. It was insanely OP back when it would consistently insta kill an entire squad, now it doesn't do that anymore. Its pretty bullshit that it has so much health it could still drive through a wall of AT with zero fucks given (most good players used vehicle blocking to negate this anyway) and continue to burn your theoretically safe troops, but offensively it was fixed a while back.
24 Apr 2014, 20:57 PM
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Helping Hans said KV-8 OP.
24 Apr 2014, 22:53 PM
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Helping Hans said KV-8 OP.


Helping Hans also said last patch, in no particular order:

Soviets OP
Conscripts OP
Mines OP
Democharge OP
SU76 OP
IS2 OP
Maxim OP
Mortar OP
Shocks OP
Radio Intercept OP
IL2 OP


Man soviets had an easy time last patch, so much op to abuse.
24 Apr 2014, 22:57 PM
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Helping Hans OP
25 Apr 2014, 11:37 AM
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come on Sage, just try at least once a normal build order with mixed units. You either spam or use doctrine-specific abuser units. And then you complain

You are the Chelsea among the coh2 players
25 Apr 2014, 11:57 AM
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KV8 isn't OP. It was insanely OP back when it would consistently insta kill an entire squad, now it doesn't do that anymore. Its pretty bullshit that it has so much health it could still drive through a wall of AT with zero fucks given (most good players used vehicle blocking to negate this anyway) and continue to burn your theoretically safe troops, but offensively it was fixed a while back.


you retard sir? KV8 was, and still is OP
25 Apr 2014, 12:01 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post25 Apr 2014, 11:57 AMakosi


you retard sir? KV8 was, and still is OP

I said it had too much health BUT it shouldn't be a problem for anyone halfway competent at this game because you can easily block that huge thing from driving past your AT units. Anyone who whines about it like they did 6 months ago is just a butthurt retard trying to point a finger at something instead of learning to play the game better.

tl;dr micro more
25 Apr 2014, 12:11 PM
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I said it had too much health BUT it shouldn't be a problem for anyone halfway competent at this game because you can easily block that huge thing from driving past your AT units. Anyone who whines about it like they did 6 months ago is just a butthurt retard trying to point a finger at something instead of learning to play the game better.

tl;dr micro more



not the health, germans tank rarely penetrate the KV8, instant kills grens , so faust is not an option not mention, if you managed to faust not sure it gets motor dmg.

I am starting to agree with Cata, you are becoming an idiot.

25 Apr 2014, 12:29 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post25 Apr 2014, 12:11 PMakosi

germans tank rarely penetrate the KV8...if you managed to faust not sure it gets motor dmg.

Same thing can be said for most other doctrine tanks in the game.

instant kills grens

Nope not anymore takes several seconds to kill a squad now which is fine.
25 Apr 2014, 13:53 PM
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Same thing can be said for most other doctrine tanks in the game.


Nope not anymore takes several seconds to kill a squad now which is fine.



show me the replay where for example a p4 instant kills squads, or kills half of the enemy army while they are retreating. Another problem was the IS2 and ISU, but i dont know how are they now.
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